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	<title>Comments on: Hanh Trinh Ve Phuong Dong &#8211; A Vietnamese prelude to Spalding&#8217;s Life and Teachings?</title>
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		<title>By: APZ</title>
		<link>http://www.bairdtspalding.org/2009/09/hanh-trinh-ve-phuong-dong-a-vietnamese-prelude-to-spaldings-life-and-teachings/comment-page-1/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>APZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is always hurt, but it is good.  If we do not experience this kinds of hurtful feeling ourselves, we will not stop criticizing other people.  Commonly , if we are talented and intelligent, we are not jealous of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is always hurt, but it is good.  If we do not experience this kinds of hurtful feeling ourselves, we will not stop criticizing other people.  Commonly , if we are talented and intelligent, we are not jealous of others.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please keep the discussion civil.

I should point out that the posts by Pham, Tran, Ted, Lilanie, Andrea, Open-Mindedness, Polmalia, Remigio and FF all came from the same IP address in New Mexico, indicating they were most likely made by the same individual. 

If you are going to comment, please use one name and stick to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please keep the discussion civil.</p>
<p>I should point out that the posts by Pham, Tran, Ted, Lilanie, Andrea, Open-Mindedness, Polmalia, Remigio and FF all came from the same IP address in New Mexico, indicating they were most likely made by the same individual. </p>
<p>If you are going to comment, please use one name and stick to it.</p>
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		<title>By: FF</title>
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		<dc:creator>FF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chao jeanluc, 

i agree with you. if mr nguyen phong wrote hanh trinh ve phuong dong himself, i would admire him even more. for a 25 year-old young man to write “hanh trinh ve phuong dong” and “trong long dien tu” concomitantly and publish them in monthly series in 1975 at a refugee camp, he must be an exceptionally rare individual.  

jeanluc, your characters are indeed revealed by how you see nguyen phong!!!

instead of trying to learn valuable lessons and appreciate precious experiences in journey to the east and lotus on the snow, JJ is trying to find the original books. i feel very sorry for him because it is like he goes to a famous restaurant, orders the best dish, and pays the most expensive price, but he has no time to enjoy the food because he is way too busy to look at the napkin, the silverware, and the plate.

also, instead of paying attention to moral messages in hanh trinh ve phuong dong, JJ concentrated on criticizing the style of writing of nguyen phong and accusing poven leace of cashing on the demand for spalding’ books. I feel bad for JJ because he unintentionally discloses his own characters and does not even realize it.

as humble and noble as nguyen phong is, he always remains to be a real role model for people who have high levels of human evolution. 

for those who highly criticize nguyen phong, all they do is to deposit the best-quality seeds of jealousy, mean-mindedness, resentment, and hatred into their own conscious land.

if JJ could realize and learn only about 10 % of what nguyen phong intended to disseminate, he would be a young deity himself.

here is a quick reminder for you, JJ: &quot;holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else - you are the one who gets burned.&quot;

ciao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chao jeanluc, </p>
<p>i agree with you. if mr nguyen phong wrote hanh trinh ve phuong dong himself, i would admire him even more. for a 25 year-old young man to write “hanh trinh ve phuong dong” and “trong long dien tu” concomitantly and publish them in monthly series in 1975 at a refugee camp, he must be an exceptionally rare individual.  </p>
<p>jeanluc, your characters are indeed revealed by how you see nguyen phong!!!</p>
<p>instead of trying to learn valuable lessons and appreciate precious experiences in journey to the east and lotus on the snow, JJ is trying to find the original books. i feel very sorry for him because it is like he goes to a famous restaurant, orders the best dish, and pays the most expensive price, but he has no time to enjoy the food because he is way too busy to look at the napkin, the silverware, and the plate.</p>
<p>also, instead of paying attention to moral messages in hanh trinh ve phuong dong, JJ concentrated on criticizing the style of writing of nguyen phong and accusing poven leace of cashing on the demand for spalding’ books. I feel bad for JJ because he unintentionally discloses his own characters and does not even realize it.</p>
<p>as humble and noble as nguyen phong is, he always remains to be a real role model for people who have high levels of human evolution. </p>
<p>for those who highly criticize nguyen phong, all they do is to deposit the best-quality seeds of jealousy, mean-mindedness, resentment, and hatred into their own conscious land.</p>
<p>if JJ could realize and learn only about 10 % of what nguyen phong intended to disseminate, he would be a young deity himself.</p>
<p>here is a quick reminder for you, JJ: &#8220;holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else &#8211; you are the one who gets burned.&#8221;</p>
<p>ciao</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Amazon page:

&quot;In HSTT, Nguyên Phong has clearly revealed that Alan Havey-a physician who graduated from the University of Michigan but practiced his medical profession in Chicago, Illinois-currently works with the International Red Cross in refugee camps along the Tibetan-Afghanistan border. Together with Michael Goodman-an anthropologist, they have been compiling many documents to denounce barbarous actions that the Chinese Communists have imposed on the Tibetans. Regardless of whether The Mani Stones is out of print or scarce, it is extremely difficult, or even impossible, to find a copy of it. &quot;

It doesn&#039;t surprise me that there is *another* book by Nguyen Phong in which the mysterious English original cannot be found like HTVPD. 

Out of interest I searched Google Books and Alibris for &quot;The Mani Stones&quot;, supposedly written by Alan Havey and published by Dharamsala Press in 1990. I can&#039;t find a single mention of this book, the author or even Dharamsala Press anywhere. Yet a copy managed to make its way to Nguyen Phong for him to translate and publish his version &quot;Lotus On the Snow&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Amazon page:</p>
<p>&#8220;In HSTT, Nguyên Phong has clearly revealed that Alan Havey-a physician who graduated from the University of Michigan but practiced his medical profession in Chicago, Illinois-currently works with the International Red Cross in refugee camps along the Tibetan-Afghanistan border. Together with Michael Goodman-an anthropologist, they have been compiling many documents to denounce barbarous actions that the Chinese Communists have imposed on the Tibetans. Regardless of whether The Mani Stones is out of print or scarce, it is extremely difficult, or even impossible, to find a copy of it. &#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that there is *another* book by Nguyen Phong in which the mysterious English original cannot be found like HTVPD. </p>
<p>Out of interest I searched Google Books and Alibris for &#8220;The Mani Stones&#8221;, supposedly written by Alan Havey and published by Dharamsala Press in 1990. I can&#8217;t find a single mention of this book, the author or even Dharamsala Press anywhere. Yet a copy managed to make its way to Nguyen Phong for him to translate and publish his version &#8220;Lotus On the Snow&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: remigio frascuelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>remigio frascuelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daniel nguyen,

why do not you trust your own instinct instead of listen to the mean-minded people from this web site?  they are so jealous with nguyen phong, so they put words in his mouth.

ciao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daniel nguyen,</p>
<p>why do not you trust your own instinct instead of listen to the mean-minded people from this web site?  they are so jealous with nguyen phong, so they put words in his mouth.</p>
<p>ciao</p>
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		<title>By: Polmalia Viracque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polmalia Viracque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chao cheche, 
if you think that insights and knowledge of nguyen phong are &quot;vehicles&quot; for wisdom to express itself, I wish that you will find his brillian &quot;vehicles&quot; in lotus on the snow too. nguyen phong just published another book. here is the web site: 
http://www.amazon.com/Lotus-Snow-Poven-Leace/dp/145152935X/ref=sr_1_11?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1279439346&amp;sr=1-11

chao joesph, 
the product description of lotus on the snow says that &quot;...The lessons drawn from this book are valuable accumulations of personal experience that neither power nor money nor fame can buy...&quot; you will probably find a lot of things that money cannot buy in another book of nguyen phong. i like your answer to open-highmindedness. hope to hear from you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chao cheche,<br />
if you think that insights and knowledge of nguyen phong are &#8220;vehicles&#8221; for wisdom to express itself, I wish that you will find his brillian &#8220;vehicles&#8221; in lotus on the snow too. nguyen phong just published another book. here is the web site:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lotus-Snow-Poven-Leace/dp/145152935X/ref=sr_1_11?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1279439346&amp;sr=1-11" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Lotus-Snow-Poven-Leace/dp/145152935X/ref=sr_1_11?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1279439346&amp;sr=1-11</a></p>
<p>chao joesph,<br />
the product description of lotus on the snow says that &#8220;&#8230;The lessons drawn from this book are valuable accumulations of personal experience that neither power nor money nor fame can buy&#8230;&#8221; you will probably find a lot of things that money cannot buy in another book of nguyen phong. i like your answer to open-highmindedness. hope to hear from you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Joesph Nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joesph Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Open-mindedness!
I completely agree with you. You have a wonderful philosophy of living. That&#039;s the way, we should not always try to criticize people and find fault in everything. We should concentrate on  what is essential and ignore the superficial appearance. How wonderful to find happiness in generosity and forgiveness.  
I like Journey to the East because it teaches us how to forget our ego and to be humble. It reminds people of the univeral law of causality and effect: As Ye Sow, So Shall Ye Reap!
It also teaches us that there are lots of things that money cannot buy, especially when it is concerned with HAPPINESS.
If everybody thinks the way you do, our world will certainly be a better place to live! Let&#039;s pray for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Open-mindedness!<br />
I completely agree with you. You have a wonderful philosophy of living. That&#8217;s the way, we should not always try to criticize people and find fault in everything. We should concentrate on  what is essential and ignore the superficial appearance. How wonderful to find happiness in generosity and forgiveness.<br />
I like Journey to the East because it teaches us how to forget our ego and to be humble. It reminds people of the univeral law of causality and effect: As Ye Sow, So Shall Ye Reap!<br />
It also teaches us that there are lots of things that money cannot buy, especially when it is concerned with HAPPINESS.<br />
If everybody thinks the way you do, our world will certainly be a better place to live! Let&#8217;s pray for that!</p>
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		<title>By: Open-mindedness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open-mindedness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 04:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poven Leace translated Hanh Trinh Ve Phuong Dong into English to share the thoughtful and helpful contents with those who can neither read nor understand Vietnamese.  From the English translation I have, Poven absolutely has no intention to translate the book for cashing in on the demand for Spalding&#039;s books as JJ wrote.

To all of us who read this web site, why can&#039;t we just embrace the meaningful contents of the book and try to be the best persons as we can be?  Why do we have to criticize other people and find fault in everything?  How can we be good people if all we see in other people are bad?

Our own ego and arrogance are our enemies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poven Leace translated Hanh Trinh Ve Phuong Dong into English to share the thoughtful and helpful contents with those who can neither read nor understand Vietnamese.  From the English translation I have, Poven absolutely has no intention to translate the book for cashing in on the demand for Spalding&#8217;s books as JJ wrote.</p>
<p>To all of us who read this web site, why can&#8217;t we just embrace the meaningful contents of the book and try to be the best persons as we can be?  Why do we have to criticize other people and find fault in everything?  How can we be good people if all we see in other people are bad?</p>
<p>Our own ego and arrogance are our enemies!</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel

I have not done a detailed analysis. There are many similar themes and concepts in HTVPD to Spalding but is basically an original work of fiction. Certainly all of the names of scientists etc that appear in HTVPD are original because Spalding generally didn&#039;t name his associates.

According to an online Vietnamese forum I read some time ago, &#039;Nguyen Phong&#039; is Dr John Vu who is now a senior Boeing engineer and lecturer at CMU. He has not responded to my inquiries about writing HTVPD.  You can see a photo of him here:

http://www.cmu.edu/silicon-valley/faculty-staff/vu-john.html

Thanks

Todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel</p>
<p>I have not done a detailed analysis. There are many similar themes and concepts in HTVPD to Spalding but is basically an original work of fiction. Certainly all of the names of scientists etc that appear in HTVPD are original because Spalding generally didn&#8217;t name his associates.</p>
<p>According to an online Vietnamese forum I read some time ago, &#8216;Nguyen Phong&#8217; is Dr John Vu who is now a senior Boeing engineer and lecturer at CMU. He has not responded to my inquiries about writing HTVPD.  You can see a photo of him here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cmu.edu/silicon-valley/faculty-staff/vu-john.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmu.edu/silicon-valley/faculty-staff/vu-john.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Todd</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,

Thanks for this website, where I can find many useful fact (?). I would like to know the percentage in common  between the original series of Spalding and HTVPD of Nguyen Phong. This is very helpful for me since I used to inspired with HTVPD and now got a lot of surprise and disappointment. 

Thanks all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>Thanks for this website, where I can find many useful fact (?). I would like to know the percentage in common  between the original series of Spalding and HTVPD of Nguyen Phong. This is very helpful for me since I used to inspired with HTVPD and now got a lot of surprise and disappointment. </p>
<p>Thanks all.</p>
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